In this episode, Eric shares an episode from Rare Cuts Media Society where they discuss Disney's 2005 film, Sky High, as part of their superhero summer series. The movie's cast, and the concept of Sky High are explored by the RCMS Panel: Synergy Host Eric and the rest of the Rare Cust team, Rob Lachcik, Andrew Jagoda, and Mike Ross. Sky High is a Disney Film, so theres plenty of Disney to go around! Plus, if you stick around to the end of the episode, you will find out Rare Cuts Media Society’s next viewing assignment….and spoiler alert! Its Disney!
Rare Cuts Epic Superhero Summer Strikes back with Disney’s Sky High (2005). Eric picks the movie about a Superhero High School where Will Stronghold, son of the most famous super hero Duo, The Commander and Jetstream, is about to start his freshman year. The Movie’s all star cast features Kurt Russell, Kelly Preston, Bruce Campbell, Cloris Leachman, Lynda Carter, and A couple of Kids in the Hall! The panel takes a look at whether or not a star studded cast is enough to make this beefed up Disney Channel style movie a worthy successor to Disney’s Marvel Cinematic Universe. Will Eric get the panel to admit that Sky High paved the way for the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
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00:59 --> 03:26 Hey, this is Synergy Loves company, where we explore how Disney connects to everything. Because you don't have to be at the Disney parks to experience the magic every day. I'm Eric, and even though I just said you don't have to be at the Disney parks, sometimes it's nice to go and visit. And I'm actually in Walt Disney World right now. Well, not right now while I'm recording this, but very possibly when you're listening to it. And I'm sure I'm having too much fun right now. So if you want to see what I'm up to in the parks, you can head over to my Instagram energy lovescompany, give me a follow and check out some highlights from my trip. I'm sure I'll talk about it when I get back. Today I'm going to share with you a Disney themed episode of the other podcast that I'm a part of, the Rarecuts Media Society. On that show, I'm part of a panel who all take turns picking a movie, music, book, etcetera, all on a common theme for the rest of the panel to watch and comment on. We're in the middle of our superhero summer, so I just had to pick Disney's 2005 sky high. So many superheroes. The movie's about will stronghold, who hasn't found out what his superpowers are yet, even though his parents are the world's most powerful superhero duo. He's off to sky high high school for budding superheroes, and he doesn't know if he's a hero or a sidekick. The cast of Sky High is pretty star studded. Kelly Preston and Disney legend Kurt Russell play Will's parents. Some of the kids in the hall and Bee movie King Bruce Campbell, the legendary Cloris Leachman, they all play teachers at sky High. Wonder Woman herself, Linda Carter, plays the principal of the school. It's pretty great. So if you're listening to this episode on the podcast app of your choice, you'll hear that rare cuts Media society episode right after this. But if you're watching this on YouTube, I'm happy to share with you, that Rarecuts Media society is also now on YouTube. So I left you a link to hop over to that episode on Rarecuts channel. Oh, yeah. And if you wait around to the end of the Rarecuts episode, Andrew makes his pick for next month. And he picks something Disney too. I guess I'm rubbing off on the other RCMS members. Maybe I can totally change that podcast into another Disney podcast. I'll keep working on it. I hope you enjoy the episode. Here we go.
03:36 --> 03:50 Hello, and welcome to Rarecuts Media Society, a podcast that looks at hidden media gems while we wait for our superpowers to unlock with your hosts. As always, I'm Andrew Jagoda. And with me, we've got Mike Ross. How are you today, Mike?
03:51 --> 03:57 Doing all right. I was a little confused. Did I. Did you guys all read war and peace for this podcast?
03:58 --> 03:58 Oh.
04:03 --> 04:05 I don't think there's a lot of superheroes in that one.
04:05 --> 04:07 I'm never gonna get those hours back.
04:09 --> 04:11 Rob Lichik. How are you today, Rob?
04:12 --> 04:23 I'm doing well. I definitely did not read Warren Peace, but I contemplated reading Bruce Campbell's biography again, but I didn't have the time.
04:23 --> 04:31 That is a fantastic book. And, of course, Eric Hathorn. How are you today, Eric?
04:31 --> 04:41 I am doing great. I am over the moon. Is that like, sky high that we are, that we are watching and talking about this movie?
04:42 --> 04:59 Oh, and mentioning that? So we are continuing our summer of superheroes arc here on rare cuts. So we will go right back to Eric while he introduces us to the wonderful movie that he picked for this month.
04:59 --> 05:40 That's right. Thank you for leading me into that, because, yeah, I picked 2000 five's sky high. It is a Disney film, of course. I love to pick Disney films. And it's a Disney superhero movie that predates Disney's Marvel. Uh, you know, their. Their Marvel acquisition. Maybe we could thank, uh, this movie for leading us to the Marvel Cinematic Universe under disney. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe that's what they were kind of shopping at, trying to figure out if it would work. But anyways, I mean, Marvel's. Marvel's. Marvel's better than this, right?
05:41 --> 05:43 It was the motivation handy today, Eric.
05:43 --> 05:44 I don't have to say anything.
05:47 --> 08:21 All right? But this is really great. This is really great. I think it's really great. Sky high. So let's get into sky high and kind of where it sits with us and in the world. So in the two thousands, the superhero genre was having a big resurgence that would eventually lead to the birth of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in 2000, eight's Iron man. But at the beginning of the decade, Spider man and X Men made successful franchises out of Marvel titles. And Batman begins gave us a new look at DC's most famous character. Studios also wanted to get into the superhero family films as well. Pixar had released the Incredibles in 2004. Spy kids, as well as Sharkboy and Lava Girl were two Robert Rodriguez kids superhero successes of the decade, released by Dimension Films. Disney actually owned Dimension when Spy Kids was released, but by 2005, when Sharkboy and Lava Girl came out, Disney wasnt the owner of Dimension anymore. And so they launched a competing family friendly superhero movie, Sky High. So Sky High was born out of the Disney Channels animated series. Kim Possible, the creators of Kim Possible, Bob Schooley, and Mark McCorkle both have fun names to say, wrote a script for a live action movie adaptation of the show. The live action Kim possible movie got shelved, but Disney gave schoolie and McCorkle another script off the shelf to work on, one about a high school full of superheroes called Sky High. They imagined a story where will stronghold, the son of two of the most powerful superheroes, is about to go off to superhero high school without having discovered his superpowers yet. Will he be hero enough, or will he be relegated to hero supporting sidekick duties? All right, so that's kind of where sky high sits as far as the chronology of superhero films. But I kind of wanted to start our conversation off. We all watched the movie. Where do you think that sky high kind of fits into the superhero genre? There's so many different superhero movies out there. There's the big, like, comic book franchise ones. There's kind of the more, uh, indie comic inspired ones. But into the superhero genre of comics and movies, where does sky high fit?
08:21 --> 09:07 All right, I'll jump in first. I will say I think it's not, I think it's a superhero film, not to say by accident, but that's just kind of like, just the world it exists in. It's not necessarily the, like, the main focus of the film. Yes, it builds the characters and that, but it's a teen rom.com, right? I think it just exists in a world of superheroes, if you will. It's a backdrop instead of like maybe the focus of the film. I don't know if any of you felt similar or if you felt like it, more focused on the superheroes at least than I thought it did.
09:08 --> 09:39 I mean, I think it fit really well into that genre of spy kids and Sharkboy and Lava Girl. It felt very similar to some of those movies. I haven't watched many of them. My kids really recently watched. One had come out a couple years ago, or like, shark Boy and Lava Girl are all fully grown now, and the kids have to come save the day. So it's kind of similar, almost like a remake of this one, if you will.
09:39 --> 11:11 See, going into it, I didn't look it up because I couldn't remember, but I also felt like that might have jaded me to it if I did look it up. And I couldn't remember if it was a theatrical release or if it was a Disney Channel original. And I think that was smart of me not to look it up ahead of time because I just kind of assumed in my head, I'm like, it might have been a Disney Channel original. Let's watch it. Which is what it felt like. So the fact that it wasn't a Disney Channel original, it was like, oh, oh, okay. Because to me, this is going to sound a little funny, especially since Disney owns, like, everything. But it felt like if you took a Disney Channel movie and the character Turboman from Jingle all the way combined them, because you get that, yes, it's, you have Kurt Russell, a big star name. Like, you know, jingle all the way had Schwarzenegger, but it felt like it was subpar as a whole. Kind of like how a Disney Channel movie would feel if you're thinking big theater movie, big budget, which, I mean, this had a big budget.
11:11 --> 11:12 Yeah.
11:12 --> 11:25 But it just didn't quite reach that level. Like the superhero movies of being like, this is a big blockbuster movie, and it just felt underwhelming in that sense.
11:25 --> 11:31 I mean, I agree with that sentiment as well, in terms of it feeling more like a Disney Channel original.
11:33 --> 11:33 To.
11:33 --> 11:50 The point where it almost made me want this to be kind of like, here's the Disney Channel original movie, and now we're gonna continue this on with sky high, the series. Like, I could totally see Disney continuing on with in that vein.
11:50 --> 13:17 Yeah, I wonder too, like, kind of going, bringing everything you guys put together, like, you know, bringing it all together sky high. I had to do the same thing. I'm gonna. I'm gonna admit to you, Andrew, when I remembered sky high, I was like, was it a Disney Channel original movie or a theatrical release? Because I remember it not being totally on my radar when it first came out. We weren't necessarily the target demographic at the time. But then when I saw the cast, I was like, oh, no, there's no way this could have been a Disney Channel original movie, because there are a lot of names. There's a lot of names in it. But to go back to the point where we were talking about it's a rom.com with a superhero backdrop, I kind of feel like that's one of those innovations that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has kind of embraced in doing kind of genre movies with superheroes in them. You get, like, the more this is a Sci-Fi movie with superhero, you know, with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, this is a horror movie in something like the Doctor strange multiverse of Madness or, like, the moon night stuff. So, like, I feel like that. Could we say that, you know, I'm going to go back to. Maybe this is going to be my big question that comes through it. Could we say that sky high paved the way for Disney's MCU? What do you think at this point, I'm going to check in with you guys?
13:18 --> 13:18 No.
13:21 --> 13:44 I would say no to that. But I will say if you're comparing it to Marvel versus DC, it's way closer to Marvel. I mean, they do all of the naming conventions where it's like, you know, we got to use the letter G for the first Name and the last name we got to use. I mean, all. All of the superhero names sound like Marvel to me.
13:45 --> 13:48 Yeah. It felt like an X Men Mutant Academy type thing.
13:48 --> 13:57 Yeah. And, like, calling it the secret sanctum, I was like, Marvel would do that. You got to have that alliteration, you know?
13:58 --> 14:15 But I mean, honestly, if you. If you take away the superhero elements from the movie, you're left with a very cliche, generic, forgettable movie that's so much like all the other kind of teen will they, won't they rom coms?
14:16 --> 15:02 Let me. So let me ask this. So when I did pick this one, now, it seems like we all knew it was kind of, or I shouldn't say we all knew, but we all kind of discovered that it was. It was kind of a Disney Channel movie masquerading in the theatrical skin that it was released in. But when I picked it, and I think I even said this at the end of the last episode when I introduced it, is I thought there would be a little something for each and every one of you in this movie. So even if you didn't like it as a whole, I want to know about what was that thing that you would maybe say that was in it for you? So when I picked it, I was thinking maybe there's a little something that each of you could latch on to. What was in it for you.
15:03 --> 15:06 Bruce Campbell. Bruce Campbell.
15:06 --> 15:11 Brucey Baby Flores, Leachman.
15:14 --> 15:17 I mean, hey, she had a small part in it, right.
15:20 --> 15:48 The one thing I enjoyed, I did kind of enjoy some of the music. It definitely made it feel like they were trying to remake an eighties rom.com with all the covers, but in 2005. But I did enjoy the music in general. The one song I did like the most was I do like the COVID of through being cool by they might be giants. It's a good song.
15:48 --> 15:49 Really?
15:49 --> 16:14 Really. I was, I did not look to see what was, I usually look like to look what songs or what the soundtrack is, especially for a movie like this, because a lot of it's, could be driven by some of the songs or at least it kind of holds it together. But I didn't. And I was pleasantly surprised to hear through being cool and film. It was, I think it was early on, too. So kind of, yeah. Sucked me in a little bit at the beginning.
16:15 --> 17:23 Yeah. No, I'm glad you brought up the, again with like the eighties teen, teen movie because, yeah, they do go through it. There's all those tropes of the eighties teen movie. There's the dance, there's a house party. There's all that stuff that goes through it. And maybe it's not a superhero movie like you said. It's actually just more of that, more of that eighties teen, it's a John Hughes film masquerading as a, was a recycled John Hughes film or amalgam of John Hughes films masquerading as a superhero movie made for the Disney Channel but released in the theaters. But we see, we're getting a definition for what is sky high. But Sky High has a pretty star studded cast, which does two out of three of you. And I said, I picked this thinking there would be something in it from you. Two out of three of you said it was the cast. So let's talk about the cast. What was maybe what was great about the casting that we got in this movie, or maybe what you didn't like too, about the casting here.
17:23 --> 17:49 I think what was most fascinating was to look up some of the characters and see what they've done since then. And my conclusion is we were watching a movie in which to some degree, all actors and actresses had sold their souls to Disney as children, including Kurt Russell. So yes, that's true.
17:50 --> 17:51 He goes way.
17:51 --> 17:55 Are you saying the kids in the hall sold their soul to Disney?
17:57 --> 17:58 Yes.
18:00 --> 18:04 Lorne Michaels is rolling in his grave. No, wait, he's not dead yet.
18:06 --> 18:26 But I thought that it was just interesting to see, like Andrew was pointing out, you know, some of them gone on to work in Star wars series. Others are voice actors in, like, Lilo and Stitch, and. And there's just tons of Disney connections throughout an already Disney connected movie.
18:26 --> 20:22 So the thing for me was that, like how we were saying earlier about kind of that Disney Channel feel, it was like you had that. But then they threw so much money into it that you got these big, bigger names as opposed to a Disney Channel original where, you know, like, one guy, because he was on some tv show ten years ago or something. But the problem with it that kind of leaned it more back toward the Disney Channel was, where's the chemistry? Like, you have? You have Dave Foley and Kevin McDonald. Yeah, they've got a long history together. There wasn't a whole lot of them together in the movie. You've got Bruce Campbell, who I love, but he's not really doing much. Most of the movie he doesn't interact with, like, Kurt Russell at all. And if it were me, I would have them interact at least a couple of times because they, back when they started their careers, they basically had the same egotistical characters all the time. So you bring these names in, but then it's just kind of like, okay, well, we're going to set you over here and you over here and you overhear. So you can't really say, like, this is a movie where the ensemble is all these big names. It's more like you have different scenes with certain people just that chops it up so much that you're not really getting that big feel of, like, oh, a big budget. All these stars together working. No, they're working with the kids, and then they're just off in their own little scenes.
20:23 --> 21:18 And now, I will add, now, isn't that kind of typical of a Disney, kind of like kids, either a tv show or a film where the focus is really on the kids. And even if the adult actors are incredibly famous, they always kind of seem to kind of have a subdued role in whatever it is, tv or film. So I think it kind of, for me, it kind of followed that kind of. That same formula a little bit. But I agree with you. I think it would have. It would have improved the film and really kind of brought some of the things together. Like, if Bruce Campbell and, like, Kurt Russell, because you could obviously sense, like, in between there are different scenes obviously not together. Like, there was some sort of, like. Like, butting of heads at some point in time.
21:18 --> 21:21 Yeah, he's just getting back with me.
21:21 --> 22:07 Yeah, they could have, like, brought that back at some point, but they, that was, like, kind of like a missed opportunity. I thought some of the funnier scene, at least, including the adult characters, I think it was Bruce Campbell and Kevin McDonald, were, like, drinking at a bar or something, and they were going back and forth. Like, those were cut. That was kind of like some of the scenes. I wish they would have done more, like, had some of that kind of stuff. But again, it. I'm sure the main target audience was teens, preteens and such. So who's gonna want to watch Bruce Campbell and Kevin McDonald to go back and forth and tell jokes, like, from the eighties? Well, I would. Yes, I would as well, but maybe not for the target audience.
22:09 --> 23:33 Now, I think it's interesting you guys brought up, like, the interaction between Kurt Russell specifically and some of those other, some of those other actors, because within the movie itself, there's a big part of the movie that's based on, that's based on, like, a superhero class system between superheroes and their sidekicks, which in the movie, they call hero support, because sidekick is maybe more of a derogatory term. There's a whole Harry Potter style, like, sorting ceremony where you show off your super skill, and then they decide if it's worthy of being a main star hero or if it is just some sort of sidekick gag kind of thing. And when you really do think about superhero genre in general, like Marvel and DC, there is a pecking order in the superheroes. Like, you have a superman, Batman, Wonder Woman are, like, at the top of the Justice League. And then, like, Aquaman is not as popular. The Flash, maybe not as popular. If you go into the MCU, you've got your. Your main avengers. You're like, four big main avengers. You got, you know, Thor, the Incredible Hulk, which honestly, I think the Incredible Hulk, in my opinion, is not as cool. He doesn't get as much, or I should say he doesn't get as much love. He's a cool character, but he doesn't get as much love. I'll say it too.
23:33 --> 23:34 Okay. Okay.
23:34 --> 25:22 But he doesn't get as much love. And then, like, your Tony Stark, your iron man, and your Thor, like, those core avengers are like the Avengers from the comics. And then you have all these other Avengers and people who have joined, and they're not maybe as well known as the core group. And then you have even lesser and lesser characters who sometimes make cameos in movies. And the average viewer doesn't even realize that that's someone from the comics. And so there is a definite, I think, pecking order in comics with heroes. And in this movie, the working, actual, out in the field, working superheroes are played by Kurt Russell as the commander. And Jetstream is Kelly Preston, who are bigger name actors with bigger movie credits than the superheroes, who are not out there fighting crime, but teaching at the school, like Bruce Campbell, Dave Foley, Kevin McDonald. Then you get some kind of, like, retired legends in Chloras Leachman, and then Linda Carter. Wonder Woman is. Is running the whole school as the principal, but they're not out there in the field doing the superhero work. They're at the school teaching the new up and coming superheroes. And it's almost, I got the impression that this movie, and you guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but this movie was intentional about that casting and the amount that those star superheroes would talk to the maybe lesser superheroes because of that superhero class system. And maybe, what do you guys think of that? Does that answer the question of maybe why Kurt Russell wasn't having as much interaction with the others?
25:22 --> 26:12 Yeah, I could see that explaining it. It's still just. I mean, it's one thing to have it and say, you know, that makes sense. Another to say, well, yeah, but couldn't you have a scene or two just to kind of show us what that would be like? Because, like Rob was saying with Bruce Campbell versus Kurt Russell, you know, there's mention of, oh, he's getting back at me because of blah, blah, blah. Well, maybe if there was even a scene where they just kind of had a two or three lines against each other, like, they're arguing, like, it could give you some reason as. As to why not only they don't like each other, but the reason why they were cast in the movie together. It just.
26:12 --> 26:47 I mean, even beyond that, they could have had a scene where they, like, reconciled, too. That would be even more Disney friendly. Right? You, like, break down the walls and bring it back to good relationship between two characters who maybe one time didn't see eye to eye. But, yeah, I definitely think there's something to that. But I just go back to my initial thought, like, a big time lost opportunity just overall in the film, to kind of leave the adult characters kind of on their own, on Little Islands, if you will.
26:47 --> 26:52 I do think we have left the kid characters on their own ourselves.
26:54 --> 26:55 Talking.
26:55 --> 27:32 Only about the big star. The big star, the big star, grown up characters. So let's talk really quick about the kid characters. Were there any that you thought were fun like, there were a lot. So in the movie, it does focus on, I think, more of the sidekicks, actually, because Will's group that he kind of hangs out with is mostly made up of sidekicks. And were there any of the sidekick character, like, powers that. That resonated with you, you thought were fun gags or so the girl that.
27:32 --> 27:40 Can turn into a guinea pig? That was one of my moments where I said Disney Channel. Originally.
27:43 --> 27:50 It was that hamster movie. Oh, I'm gonna. It's gonna kill me. I'm gonna look it up. But no, keep talking. Sidekick powers.
27:50 --> 27:57 You know, the whole scene where chewing through the wire, and it's so fake. I was like, this. This is amazingly terrible.
27:59 --> 28:13 The other one I did enjoy was where the one kid just, like, disintegrates into a puddle of goo and, like, oh, yeah. Can just, like, go around, like, slow glow under doors and that. I was just like, really?
28:13 --> 28:15 You mean the murderer?
28:15 --> 28:20 No. Turn to a dark corner here.
28:21 --> 28:38 My guy, you know, call it like I see it. He got one too many swirlies in the toilet, and he took it out on the stretch armstrong guy and flushed his head down the toilet. He's dead.
28:38 --> 28:42 Well, he had it coming. He had it coming. What do you see? What do you mean?
28:42 --> 28:44 He made it go real dark.
28:46 --> 28:50 You think that's dark? Wait until your later question about the sequel.
28:51 --> 29:22 Oh, yikes. Yes. Coming soon. Coming soon to our conversation I do have to throw out there. When you brought up the. The guinea pig, there was a Disney movie. It was a Disney movie. G force was like a team of guinea pigs. So I'm sure maybe if you guys don't agree with me that sky high started the MCU, maybe you'll agree with me that sky high led to g force, the Disney movie, with a guinea pig. Like superforce.
29:22 --> 29:23 I'll give you that one.
29:23 --> 29:31 Okay. I'll mark that down as a win for me there. I'm still going to work on that MCU thing, though. I'm still gonna work on that.
29:32 --> 30:13 Not a sidekick, but I would say that Warren Peace, the hero that has firepower, he's a cool character. He's, like, a good person. And I was frustrated that, like, there was this love story between Will and Layla, and Will is just kind of, like, whatever. She's just a friend, and Layla wants more, but then she has this nice guy, Warren Peace, that's really kind, listens to her, offers to help her advice. It's like, you should be with that guy.
30:14 --> 30:15 He got friend zoned.
30:15 --> 30:17 Yeah, yeah.
30:17 --> 30:46 I will say he was the most dynamic character out of any of the, the kids in the film. Like, I mean, because it came off initially like that, like dark, brash character, like kind of unpredictable. And then that to be like a weight, like a busboy in a restaurant. Like busboy in a restaurant with a heart of gold, if you will. Definitely. Most dynamic.
30:46 --> 31:08 We must also acknowledge that will stronghold discovers he has super strength. He knocks war and peace through multiple walls through a concrete pillar. And Warren just like gets up like whatever, and it's like, man, you must also be super strong.
31:09 --> 32:23 Yeah, he's got the super resilience, for sure. Yeah, he's probably the most developed character because even his backstory is he's kind of got a super villain father and a superhero mother. So he's got that kind of, which would lead you to be one of those tortured hero kind of like the Punisher or I'm trying to go. Even a Batman kind of has that dark side to his backstory. And you know what I mean? He'd have kind of that brooding like, so they got one of those. And he's very interesting character. So we talked cast. We talked about the cast, for sure. Rob, you had mentioned that you liked the music, which I have. I'll talk about the music too, of course, as we go through it. I loved the music, I'm not going to lie. But the soundtrack did get pretty dismal. Reviews I think, on Allmusic and some other review kind of aggregators, got like two out of five stars. So like, I know so far me and Rob have weighed in on if we like it. I like the music. Rob liked it. What about you guys, Andrew and Mike? What did you. What did you like or not like about the music?
32:24 --> 33:15 I liked the use of it. I hate to keep going back to the whole Disney channel feel, but it just keeps popping up because I mean, it's, you know, I get it early two thousands that want to appeal to that age of the audience. I get why you use the covers that they did, but for me, of course, at my age, I'm like, just use the originals. Come on. Like you want eldest eighties music. You're obviously understanding that people a little bit older are going to be watching it too and saying, oh, I remember when I was in high school and we danced and whatever. So just at least a couple of them shouldn't have been covers.
33:15 --> 34:02 I would have enjoyed. I would have enjoyed hearing through being cool by the devo original. The kids might have been turning if it was on Disney Channel, they might have been turning it off. But so I understand the reason why they maybe did some of those, but, yeah, like, I mean, the tears for fears, there's no reason they couldn't have used the original. Well, I get it, right? They want to give it that modern vibe. I get it. That just kind of follows that formula, right? I mean, even this was probably around the time when, like, even outside of this film, I think this had to be around the time, like, the punk goes pop type of albums were out. So it's just kind of, it was just kind of a trend, if you will.
34:02 --> 34:16 At the time, I didn't really notice the soundtrack so much. It was just kind of there and generic for me. I was caught up in the gripping story.
34:16 --> 34:20 Gotcha. Well, the soundtrack wasn't for you.
34:20 --> 34:20 Bah.
34:20 --> 36:07 No, I'm just kidding. But so I have this, this weird. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna speak directly really quick to the covers thing. And so there were some other movies that did this around the time, and they were like the, there's that movie, not another teen movie that came out right around this time. And that was all eighties. It was like the same kind of soundtrack as this eighties covers. Probably done a little bit better. But one thing, if you go through the list of these, these artists, because I like bowling for soup, they might be giants are on their vitamin C I knew of, but a lot of the bands I didn't know. So, like, the ones who, like, not the songs that were covered, but the song, like, the bands who were covering the songs. And if you look through the list, they're almost 90% Hollywood records bands, which. That's Disney's record label. So if we go back to, like, this is Disney making a Disney movie with, as Mike said, a lot of Disney actors and a lot of Disney songs. It is a big, like, Disney promoting Disney. And I know it's my other show, but a big synergy moment, I have to say synergy because it is what it is. And that's, I think, where those covers are coming from. And I had this problem where I loved the music because I love covers and I love eighties music, but it kind of took me out of the movie because when the songs would come in, it didn't say anything superhero to me. And then I was like, oh, listen to this. It's. It's, you know, tears for fears or, oh, it's the cars. And it wasn't like, this is sky high. I don't think it enhanced the movie for me.
36:07 --> 36:16 No, it definitely did not. I mean, it. It was good, in my opinion, but I agree with you. It didn't necessarily enhance the film.
36:16 --> 36:34 All right. I do just want to shout out real quick, though, that the score, which wasn't included in the soundtrack itself, is a Michael Giacchino, which he is a. He's not a Disney legend yet, but he basically is, because he's done so much with Disney and Pixar and. And all sorts of, like, up and.
36:35 --> 36:39 Yeah, Eric, you gotta say that guy's name three times fast.
36:39 --> 36:46 Michael Giacchino. I think I'm pronouncing it right. Michael Giacchino. I hope I'm pronouncing it right.
36:46 --> 36:49 Otherwise, I'm just saying it sounded good.
36:51 --> 36:54 He's gonna appear like beetlejuice or something.
36:54 --> 36:55 Yeah.
36:56 --> 37:04 I have some things that maybe he could autograph for me, so maybe. I think I only said it twice. So Michael Giacchino, all of a sudden.
37:04 --> 37:06 Michael Keaton shows up. What am I here for?
37:09 --> 38:47 Let's get into. This is a. This is a big. Usually we culminate in something like this, or we lead towards something like this. And this is a big tradition on Rearcutz Media society to talk about recasting the movie in a way, or, like, updating it. But I don't want to. I don't want to recast. I don't want to recast sky high. I feel like sky high has enough big names. There'd be so many to try to recast. And some of them, we might just keep the same, because we do love a good old Bruce Campbell. But I want to talk about something a little bit similar to this idea of recasting. There was supposed to be a sequel made for sky high that never got off the ground. There was actually also talk of after the sequel to maybe doing a follow up series. I know we mentioned that earlier, but there was supposed to be a sequel, and it was going to be called save you. Like the letter u, like university. So, like, after you graduate from Sky High, you could go to save you. Yay. That's the terrible punishment. It's so bad. But I want to ask. I want to ask you to save. Save you from the shelf. And I want you to give me a plot and a little bit of casting that we could do for a sequel that would take place in a superhero university.
38:47 --> 39:14 Okay? So for me, you take the kids, and it's that they're graduating safe u. And let's say it's graduation times in, like, a week or something, but the school gets destroyed, and, you know, the main kids survive, but they're, this is where I said, it's going to get dark. There are a lot of kids that died from it getting blown out of wherever it is.
39:14 --> 39:17 This is Disney. You can only kill moms.
39:18 --> 39:22 Oh, man. Come on. He's not wrong, but come on.
39:22 --> 39:55 Okay. The PTA board gets blown up, and so, of course, the main kids are trying to figure out who did it, you know, solve that mystery. So what we have is supervillain group of kids, well, former kids that were expelled or didn't graduate from save, uh, so they became supervillains, and they formed like a, almost like a, you know, Lex Luthor style group of villains headed by Willem Dafoe.
39:55 --> 40:02 Oh, God. Because we had, he's perfect for it. So would he play the green goblin type character?
40:03 --> 40:37 Sort of. No. And I want him to have on his team Benicio del Toro, because I always mention him because he's great. And then I don't know if you would make him like the principal or if he, he could do. Either. He could do that, or he could be a villain. But Forrest Whitaker, I really would love to see that, because if you want the villain side of it, he's got that kind of, you know, aged, tough look. But he could be a hero, too.
40:38 --> 40:46 So maybe he could masquerade as a hero and then flip, kind of like we had in this one with royal pain.
40:47 --> 40:48 Yeah.
40:48 --> 41:04 You know, Forrest Whitaker, he's, I love him. He's a very, very great actor. So I think he'd be in my top casting choice. And as far as the kids, cast whoever you want, I don't care.
41:08 --> 41:25 Oh, man. We're going to skip right through the whole university experience to the end and cast whoever you want. But I want Forest Whitaker. That's the summary of Andrew's I don't care. Well, that's what you practically did at the beginning of your plot.
41:25 --> 41:26 That's right.
41:26 --> 41:28 You just kept a couple of them around.
41:29 --> 42:00 So I actually had two ideas. So one of them was a sequel, but the other one was a prequel, which I think could be done, kind of goes align the lines of things I was talking about earlier. But I'll go with the sequel first. We could come back to the prequel if you guys want to hear it. For sure. I didn't focus too much on the carrot casting because I kind of along Jagoda's line. I don't think it really matters, at least from where I was coming from, for the young kids. Right.
42:00 --> 42:03 Y'all don't like the kids, don't like, no, nobody.
42:03 --> 42:04 Like the kids.
42:04 --> 42:05 Come on.
42:09 --> 44:13 So first off, I would drop the whole, like, rom.com type of piece. I would make it more of a serious film. The backdrop of it would be, I think, more instead of like a superhero where, like, the commander's wearing this, like, crazy, like very. What's the word? I'm thinking of big fancy costume. Right. And all that kind of stuff. It's more like a X Men mutant style situation. Say someone's, like, from a small town and they go to a university, say, in Chicago or LA or New York City. Yeah. And it's kind of almost like a, like Professor Xavier's school for gifted young adults, if you will, not for kids. And where kind of in a similar way where, like, movies about people going away to college and they get caught up in all sorts of crazy stuff, drugs, music, kind of expand their. Their horizons a bit, but do that with the background of, like, a mutant story as well as, like, supervillains that could exist in the city. I would think that would be kind of an interesting way of having, like, a superhero type of situation and almost of a way of thinking of Logan, but not at the end of his life, but at the beginning of. Or like those younger years where obviously he's a superhero, but he's living a normal life, or as normal as Logan can. But that's what my thought for as a sequel. So definitely not a rom.com, not goofy, definitely not for Disney, because there's lots of good crazy things that could happen in a college environment that definitely are not suitable for Disney.
44:13 --> 44:16 Yeah, yeah. Debauchery.
44:17 --> 44:22 Debauchery. Yes. Bring on the debauchery.
44:22 --> 44:27 We've got death from Andrew. Debauchery from Rob. Mike, what do you've got for us?
44:28 --> 44:30 Which one of the horsemen will you be?
44:30 --> 44:37 Okay, well, I'll just say this. You can cut as much of this out as you want.
44:39 --> 44:40 That means we leave it all in.
44:42 --> 47:27 So I took more of the approach of this would probably, at this point, be a Disney. Probably a Disney type movie. Original movie. So for save you, I was thinking Baron battle, war in Peace's father, played by Willem Dafoe, is granted parole early due to a computer glitch. Strongholds, protest and the superhero high courts agree with them, but ultimately side with their records. While they're leaving the court, it's discovered that they were involved in some criminal real estate schemes, like quid pro quo superhero stuff that led to the 2008 housing market collapse. Commander and Jetstream are imprisoned. Will is in his senior year of college at save you when he finds out his parents were criminals. Warren Peace is greeted by his father outside of class one afternoon, and he is hesitant with his newly paroled father. But Warren quickly warms up to the baron, only to discover that it's all a front, and Baron was hoping to recruit him for his new team of supervillains, including royal payne. The villains have created a device that is pulling the moon out of space to crash in to save you and destroy the next generation of supersize. Along with almost everyone on Earth, Warren sides with his friends and together informs the courts of the plots. The strongholds are immediately released after they are realized that the court documents have been altered by royal pain. They can see the moon falling, and Commander and Jetstream say that they'll deal with it, and they fly off to the moon to put it back in orbit. As they make contact, he realizes it was a trap. They have a superpower inhibitor around the moon, just like they had in detention, and they lose their powers, and they're going to be crushed. The sidekicks once again team up and infiltrate Baron battle's space fortress. They take on a number of henchmen and royal pain once more. Baron battle neutralizes all of the heroes. Warren enters and says, you may have won this battle, dad, but you'll never win the war. And at that point, points and blasts his father and rescues his friends. Commander and jet stream regain their powers and just barely prevent the moon's impact. Layla is there and begins to terraform the moon as it ascends back into the sky. And the moon now becomes the new home of sky high and save you. Roll credits.
47:27 --> 47:30 I think. I think Mike wins.
47:31 --> 47:35 You took this assignment very seriously.
47:35 --> 47:38 Yeah. Mike, did you take a day off of work to, like, put that together?
47:38 --> 48:07 Yeah. Sounds like it's all things that could happen in. In the sequel. Like, all of the. All of the elements were like, we don't have to suspend our sky high disbelief for any of that to happen. Well, well done. I also like that they caused the 2008 bubble to burst. I want to see that save you. Can we see that save you? Is that. Is that going to be an option?
48:07 --> 48:14 If Disney wants to steal it, they can just put my name in there somewhere. I don't want any money. Just make the movie.
48:14 --> 48:20 Come on, man. Wants to get paid checks to no.
48:22 --> 48:24 Rarecuts media society.
48:24 --> 48:31 And then we'll. We'll do that episode after they. After they. After they make it.
48:31 --> 48:32 Yeah.
48:32 --> 48:55 If we're done talking sequels, I would like to bring you as a prequel. So again, going back to, we talked about with sonic boom, Bruce Campbell and the commander, Kurt Russell. And then even, which I don't know if we ever. Did we ever see Baron battle? I don't think so.
48:55 --> 48:56 No.
48:56 --> 48:57 No.
48:57 --> 49:49 That character ever make an appearance was just mentioned, right. There was all sorts of things of, like sonic boom and the commander as kids. Right. Like, not getting along. And then there was also the Baron battle was taken under arrest, or whatever you want to call it, with the help of the commander. That could have been a prequel. All those things that occurred for those and those circumstances. So either use another actor, obviously much younger actor than Kurt Russell, or do some, like, some sweet, like de aging and of Kurt Russell and Bruce Campbell. But yeah, like, that would be my. I thought for a prequel, I mean, realistically they could probably do that and still be Disney Channel friendly.
49:49 --> 49:50 Oh, for sure.
49:50 --> 49:55 Kid friendly versus our debaucherous and our.
49:55 --> 50:11 Yeah. Versions. You guys did like the Frank Miller versions of it was like, like that gritty Batman and sin City all into one right there.
50:11 --> 50:18 See, Rob wanted, like, animal House, I wanted Empire strikes back, and Mike wanted Citizen Kane.
50:23 --> 50:27 It was ambitious, that's for sure. But I think it could work. I think that one could work.
50:28 --> 50:30 What about you? Do you have any ideas?
50:30 --> 53:09 Well, I'm going to greenlight yours, that's for sure. That's 100% sure. I'm going to admit that my answer is a little. Is a little tainted because recently one of the creators of the movie and Kim possible, and like, one of the writers, they kind of talked about what was supposed to happen in the sky high save you sequel that they were planning. So, like, I'll kind of speak to that a little bit because that's where my brain goes. But it was supposed to be very similar somewhat to Andrew, except even further in the future. So, like, not even skipping the university experience, it was going to. Because it was supposed. It wasn't going to come out until like, 2016. So the kids who were in it to bring them back, they would be much older than that college age. They would have to make it way back, you know, a few years earlier to make it their college experience. So in save U, the kids were going to be back at the university. So the kids would kind, or like as teachers, they would kind of take the role of the. The teaching superheroes and be like the big name actors of the movie, which already, because, you know, well, some of them have gone on to other things, but, like, already that kind of downgrades the star studdedness of the cast, but they were going to kind of come at it from that way. And they're, like, teaching the new upcoming superheroes, but in the college setting so that they could change sets and have kind of more things, but then still kind of keep some of the connective threads back to. Back to it. I'm going to make a comparison, and I hope you enjoy this comparison because I enjoy it a lot, but it would kind of remind me then more of Greece, too, where the whole cast is gone, except Frenchie has come back to work at the school and it's like a whole new, you know, group of t birds and pink ladies, but they are somewhat related to, there's, like an australian dude who's related to Sandy and there's, I think Michelle Pfeiffer was somehow related to Danny Zuko or something like that. And they. They kind of shoehorn a new story into, like, you know. So I think I would go that way. The way of Greece two, which, Greece two is great in its own way, for being so campy and ridiculous that I would hope that save you would be even more campy and ridiculous than sky high.
53:09 --> 53:16 So what did you guys figure out? Gwen was the main antagonist.
53:16 --> 54:04 So I'll tell you my saga of that, because we actually didn't talk about villains all that much. We talked more about heroes. But that is kind of the focus of the movie. I love Jim Rash. He is on community as the dean, and he cracks me up in anything he's in. So the minute I heard Jim Rash as the kind of, like, supervillain sidekick, I can't even remember his name. I was like, is that Jim Rash? And I looked it up and I was like, jim Rash? And of course, what you call it, the cast list, his credit reveals that, yeah, the sidekick is Gwen's dad. And I was like, ah, man, Grayson. It's the same, like, it's the same name.
54:04 --> 54:06 Like, you've ruined the story.
54:06 --> 54:43 I know they're in cahoots, but then I got confused just like will stronghold, because will stronghold was like, oh, man, this is Royal Payne's daughter. And I was like, is it Royal Payne's daughter? Because that's doesn't make, like, maybe so Israel really hurt. So, like, royal pain and the sidekick, like, hooking up or something. Okay, whatever. In this world, it could be, I guess. And then, uh, like, almost immediately, that's when she was like, no, I am royal pain and the laser and all that stuff. But that's how. That's my saga of.
54:43 --> 54:50 Of revealing that's not your saga. That sounds like Mike Birbiglia's saga of.
54:53 --> 55:00 I listened to too much of microbiglia. But that's my. That's. That's the way I.
55:05 --> 55:23 Will say for me. I knew something was up when he was like, I'm not taking you to the dance. And she turned from, like, this, like, really nice, sweet girl to, like, devil incarnate. It's like, whoa, whoa, hold up there, girl. Something is not quite right here. But that was then. I'm kind of like, all right, this got to be the twist.
55:23 --> 56:11 I was suspicious at the point where he comes into superhero class, and it's like, oh, no other lab partners, but you can have my teaching assistant, which was Gwen, and. And she's, like, uber nice to someone that I don't think she would be nice to. So it seemed kind of phony. I was like, I'm suspicious of you. And then. And then, like, when they eventually go and they have, like, the homecoming committee party at his house, and there's all these kids, and. And then she's like, oh, you know, I just. I wish I could have some time with just you and have some quiet. It's like, well, then why'd you invite all these people over, gwen, you're a liar.
56:12 --> 56:14 It was up to no good.
56:14 --> 56:33 And then, like you said, it reveals at the end that she is really who knows how old, like, in her forties. Uh, so she's also a pedophile. So coming for you, Disney.
56:35 --> 56:39 I gotta give you another. Oh, man. Because that's.
56:39 --> 56:40 Oh, man.
56:41 --> 56:43 We need that sound effect, though.
56:44 --> 56:46 I don't have my soundboard hooked up.
56:48 --> 57:07 Which I didn't realize as was watching the film, but it looked up like the cast later on. Apparently, the ever famous David Putty from Seinfeld also did the voice of royal pain when, like, in the suit and all that kind of stuff. But I was like, interesting.
57:07 --> 57:07 Yeah.
57:07 --> 57:09 A good David putty reference.
57:09 --> 57:30 David Putty. Patrick Warburton is also basically Disney royalty. He does the Soren pre flight check on in the ride in the parks, and he does. He's cronk from the emperor's new groove. There's more. There's more. I can't remember them all, but those are a couple of them. So there's more of that. Everyone here.
57:30 --> 57:31 That's right.
57:32 --> 57:33 Connect. It's all connected.
57:34 --> 57:35 That's right.
57:35 --> 57:37 That's how we do the eight ball.
57:42 --> 57:44 All signs pointing. Yes.
57:46 --> 58:25 No. For me, though, I assume she was the villain pretty quick, because just because of her billing, in the. The credits, I'm like, there's a villain, and we're running out of names. So then as soon as she was sitting there and invited his parents to the homecoming, I'm like, there's no reason for that. She's. She's. She's up to something. So I didn't know she was going to be the main villain or not, but at that point, I was kind of, like, up to no good. She's behind it.
58:25 --> 59:02 The thing that is most interesting is they have a yearbook from when they went to sky high, the strongholds. And they're looking through the yearbook and reminiscing, and they see Gwen, who's sitting right next to them in the yearbook, and they're like, oh, yeah, she was weird. And, like, they're just being bullies to her. And then they go and they find the club photo for science club or whatever they were in, and she's holding the pacifier. It's all right there. They know who royal pain is.
59:02 --> 59:03 You're stupid.
59:03 --> 59:05 You're basically saying.
59:05 --> 59:24 You're forgetting, though, that in this superhero world, glasses are enough to disguise you. And she was wearing glasses in the yearbook photo could even fool a superhero.
59:25 --> 01:00:23 That's true. Well, and see, from what I keep hearing is that this wasn't supposed to be just your typical superhero movie. It's meant to be more of a spoof and kind of making fun of the genre. It kind of does, and it does, but I don't think it did it enough to be really overt in nature. And so I think that's where I struggled with the movie was. It's like, oh, is this supposed to be funny, or is this serious? I couldn't tell if the movie took itself seriously, in which direction it was going, so I think they could have played it up more. I like more of, like, the self realization, uh, type films like Deadpool, where they're very aware of what they are and make fun of it, which, can.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:39 We say that sky high walks so that Deadpool could run, because maybe sky high to do with the creation of the MCU under Disney?
01:00:42 --> 01:00:44 No, I don't think so.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:46 Have I convinced anyone?
01:00:47 --> 01:00:47 Nope.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:51 I didn't think I was going to, but I figured I'd try.
01:00:53 --> 01:01:21 I feel what really happened was Disney did his foray into superhero movies was, like, you know, it was moderately successful because it did, it made twice its budget back, but it probably wasn't enough that they wanted to continue. Like, there wasn't, like, a huge blockbuster. And so then I could see Disney thinking, let's just buy Marvel.
01:01:23 --> 01:01:26 So by that, I'll give you that.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:27 I'll give you that.
01:01:28 --> 01:01:50 So have I somehow got at least Mike, to some little bit admit that maybe sky high had some sort of even little decision making part in the MCU coming to Disney? I'll take it. I'll take it.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 There you go.
01:01:53 --> 01:02:27 Can I bring up one weird thing about this? I want to know only one, you know, it's all about. Well, but I want to know, you know, all of these, these Disney connections we're bringing in all these Disney people. Who was it that said, okay, we've got this bit part and we're going to bring in two of the people from SpongeBob. Like, was that their ploy to like, try and get a foot in the door to SpongeBob or something? Like, I don't get that.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:30 So that's the people who have just bought the house.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:41 Tom Kenny, SpongeBob and Jill Talley. Karen the robot from SpongeBob.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:52 So then, yeah, Sky High is going to about to fall on their house and they're standing in front of it and they are. They are basically cast of. It's cast of sponges.
01:02:53 --> 01:03:18 If you're going to put random people in that spot, you don't have to pay for Tom Kenny, who costs a ton at that time. Even then, he was huge. I don't get what the point of casting SpongeBob seems like they could have picked somebody voicing a Disney cartoon at that point. Like Jim Cummings could have been there.
01:03:19 --> 01:03:38 That's true. That would have been good. Yeah. Yeah. It kind of felt a little non Disney, you know what I mean? It kind of took it out of Disney. Like, you know, which. Could I see sky high being a Nickelodeon movie? Sure. Sure. I could see it being a Nickelodeon movie. You know.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:50 You know what, actually, I just thought of this going back to Mike's point of spoofing itself. Disney could have spoofed itself and had the house get crushed because they were Nickelodeon actors.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:54 They could have gone that way.
01:03:54 --> 01:03:56 Sorry, you're not with Disney.
01:04:00 --> 01:04:33 And something else that I feel gets overlooked in the movie because it's just like a one liner. But the strongholds are incredibly old. They talk about being around Hawaii when King Kamehameha was there in the 18 hundreds. So not only do they have their standard superhero ability, but they also have longevity or they just don't age.
01:04:33 --> 01:04:51 If the strongholds are that old, when did they go to sky high? And how old are the rest of the adults in the movie? Because they went, you're right, because the yearbook is like, from the seventies.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:58 They're like Yoda, right? I mean, in terms of how they age, like, they're 500, but they're just kids.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:00 Maybe I didn't even think of that.
01:05:00 --> 01:05:03 So if that's true, then that'll have tonight.
01:05:04 --> 01:05:09 Maybe they don't know normally until adulthood, and then it's just like perpetual youth.
01:05:09 --> 01:05:13 Or are they like Grogu and they're actually like 50?
01:05:14 --> 01:05:16 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:05:16 --> 01:05:20 And they're. But they're just now going to sky high.
01:05:20 --> 01:05:23 So my last major gripe with the movie as a whole.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:25 Yeah, go for it.
01:05:25 --> 01:05:28 Because I have to just get off my chest and that is.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:29 Do it.
01:05:29 --> 01:06:57 I like the story of a child of two huge superheroes not having powers. I thought the movie is going to go in a completely different direction in terms of wills. Not going to have powers. He's going to become friends with sidekicks. He's going to see the value inside kicks. They're going to find value in maybe his insight or intellect. And they're still going to team up and save the day with no superpowers. But instead, the movie's like, no. He's going to get into a stressful, stressful situation. He's going to get his superpowers. He's going to go to the superhero class. He's going to hang out with his sidekick friends less. He's going to go with the popular girl in the superhero class. And I was like, what are you doing? It's like, I like the story I thought you were going for, and then you're going to have more of a meaningful ending. And because honestly, the superheroes in the story are, for the most part, egotistical and really obnoxious. Will's parents don't acknowledge or realize even he doesn't have any superpowers. They don't spend time with their child. They don't know anything about him. And so I'm just frustrated that the movie was like, okay, just give them the superpowers. Just make them super. Oh, by the way, everyone else only has one superpower. Give him two. He's got two.
01:06:57 --> 01:06:58 Super.
01:06:58 --> 01:07:05 He's twice as super because you have to be super to win the day. I was just like, I don't like that message.
01:07:06 --> 01:07:14 This podcast is turning into a therapy session for Mike. Superpowers to the movie.
01:07:14 --> 01:07:41 Yeah, see, my problem is I watch movies and then like something. There's a lot of movies that are just really good, and I can't think of anything else. But then I come across movies like this where the writers went in a direction I don't understand, and it's like an easy, easy way out, rather than trying to write more of a heartfelt script.
01:07:41 --> 01:07:49 Well, could that be. Could that just be the nature of the studio that produced it? Right. I can't say team.
01:07:51 --> 01:07:55 You mean the studio that brought you Avengers endgame? And.
01:07:58 --> 01:08:09 Remember, the target. The studio and its target audience is kids. Let's. Let's. Let's be real. A lot of those plots are kind of one dimensional.
01:08:09 --> 01:08:11 It's the guys who wrote Kim possible.
01:08:11 --> 01:08:12 Yeah.
01:08:13 --> 01:08:14 I love Kim possible.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:15 Yeah, that was good.
01:08:15 --> 01:08:19 Series from the Condor man.
01:08:19 --> 01:08:39 Yes. Which will be on the list at some point. I know that was possibly one of my superhero picks that got put on the cutting room floor. Maybe you guys are better at. Maybe that's your supervillain origin story against me, but going for sky high. But anyways, so I sit there and.
01:08:39 --> 01:08:46 I come up with my own story that I've developed, and then I get mad when I don't see it. And that's my problem. That's my issue.
01:08:47 --> 01:08:55 And then you just developed a whole sequel story that went above and beyond, and you should put it in an envelope and send it to Disney.
01:08:56 --> 01:09:03 Send it to Kurt Russell. He's gonna be like, I haven't done anything in a little bit. I've been Santa Claus twice. Let's do this.
01:09:05 --> 01:09:21 I can't remember specific moments, but I just remember the commander getting, like, unnecessarily, like, an aggressively mad for no reason at certain parts of the film. He was just like, be something like, oh, I forgot my hat.
01:09:24 --> 01:09:30 Super emotions, super happy, you know, again.
01:09:31 --> 01:09:44 And the superheroes don't even acknowledge the good deeds and helpful sidekicks and hero support. So again, the heroes are awful people in this world.
01:09:44 --> 01:09:45 Yeah.
01:09:46 --> 01:09:48 Bruce Campbell, awful person.
01:09:49 --> 01:09:59 Well, and come on, you have one guy that in all of superhero dim gets to decide what path you go down.
01:10:01 --> 01:10:07 Although you can change it as we saw you change your path. I mean, if you suddenly develop superpowers.
01:10:09 --> 01:10:11 I think turning into a puddle is kind of cool. So.
01:10:11 --> 01:10:13 Yeah, it's true.
01:10:13 --> 01:10:15 It's pretty. It's pretty cool, not gonna lie.
01:10:17 --> 01:10:28 Let's give it a good old. A good old Cisco and Ebert. Would you give it. You could give two thumbs, one thumb, no thumbs, or, like, both down. I guess you would say, I'll give.
01:10:28 --> 01:10:30 It one and a half.
01:10:30 --> 01:10:32 One and a half thumbs. Okay.
01:10:32 --> 01:10:36 It gets the half because Bruce Campbell was in it.
01:10:38 --> 01:10:39 I like it.
01:10:39 --> 01:10:44 As an adult, I acknowledge that this, I'm not the target market.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:45 True.
01:10:45 --> 01:11:01 And I personally would probably give it, I don't know, half a thumb or one thumb up. If I had watched this when I was maybe ten, I might have given it two thumbs up.
01:11:02 --> 01:11:38 I go along the lines. I agree as an adult is almost a 40 year old man. I'll just give it like a little tiny thumbs up. But mainly for, I think, the music and some of the setups with the adult superhero characters I thought were kind of nostalgic a little bit, and kind of cool. But generally the story, like Mike said, if I was twelve years old, I would be like, yeah, great movie. Yeah, but it's 40 year old man.
01:11:41 --> 01:12:00 I'll give it a solid one up. More in line with Andrew, mostly because of those superstars of the kids in the hall, Bruce Campbell, Kurt Russell, of course. But, yeah, Cloris Leachman, let's not forget her. And Wonder Woman, of course. But, yeah, that's really what did it for me.
01:12:00 --> 01:12:13 All right, so that was sky high, and it's called sky high because the high school is in the sky. So, yeah, don't, if you didn't know.
01:12:13 --> 01:12:20 Now you know, it's not a. I thought you were making like a, like a weed reference or something.
01:12:20 --> 01:12:23 No, it's not the biography of Snoop Dogg.
01:12:23 --> 01:12:27 No. Right, right. It's not that. Not at all.
01:12:28 --> 01:12:38 So, you know, give it a watch. If you got Disney, plus, you got nothing else to do, right? I mean, after you finish watching the acolyte, you're gonna have to watch something.
01:12:38 --> 01:12:45 So wouldn't that be great if that's what they suggested to you after watching the acolyte, you might also like sky high.
01:12:51 --> 01:12:59 We might be going in another direction. That takes us up into the sky with next month's pick. So I'll turn it over to Andrew.
01:13:00 --> 01:13:04 So we are going next month to stick with Disney and company?
01:13:05 --> 01:13:05 Yes.
01:13:06 --> 01:13:49 But we're going to go take a time machine and go back to World War Two with the rocketeer from 1991, directed by Joe Johnston, with Billy Campbell, Alan Arkin, Jennifer Connelly, and the always wonderful Timothy Dalton, who could perhaps be second only to Willem Dafoe. It's always been a childhood favorite movie of mine, and I'm happy to share it with everybody here on the podcast next month. So, Eric, you can go ahead and tell us where we can find it. Disney.
01:13:50 --> 01:14:50 Right. I was going to say maybe if you just finished watching sky high, I think it's more likely that you might get it. You might like to watch the Rocketeer or vice versa. Those would probably be better linked to then sky high and the acolytes. But yes, you can find it on Disney. You can find a dvd copy at your local public library, I'm sure. Go find it on VHS, though, because that's going to be even the best. But Disney plus is probably the most modern way to find the Rocketeer. And I'm so excited we get to stay in Disney. Usually it's only me picking Disney, but look at that. Some of me is rubbing off on Andrew over there picking the Rocketeer. So watch the Rocketeer and meet us next time on the Rarecuts Media society. Visit us online@rarecutsmediasociety.com. there you can find old episodes. Subscribe or connect with us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Thanks for listening.